With the WorldCon so close by, it’d be a shame to miss it…
But, says JJ at File 770: If the members of AO3 get to call themselves official Hugo Award Winners, then so do all of the commenters at File 770, and so do all of the people who’ve had works published in Uncanny Magazine — and at that point, the official term “Hugo Award Winner” has lost all meaning.
Does File 770 tell its commenters, “you are wanted; you are an essential part of this blog site; it was created so you would have a place to make these comments?” Does it say, “we have created tools that let you post and edit and seek out comments like yours; please send us feedback on how to improve the comment threading?”
Do the authors who are published in Uncanny, choose what they get to publish there? Are they welcome to join a committee and shape the rules for what Uncanny will publish? Does Uncanny say, “Please send your creative works to us; we want them all; this magazine exists to showcase as much of your work as you are willing to share?”
Neither File 770 nor Uncanny was created to support all of the people involved in it equally. Neither of them allows random people to become contributors to searchable, front-page content. Neither of them says: “Your works are welcome here, even the ones that are antisocial, even the ones we personally don’t like, because this is your home if you want it to be.”
AO3 is not a curated collection; it’s a community.
I am done with listening to gatekeeping men who want to put lines around our creativity, who want to declare that while yes, two authors can both win for “best novella” and a team of 6 can win a “best fanzine” or “best podcast” award, a team of a million can’t possibly win the “best related work” award.
elf on communities.
If a segment of fandom wants to come and tell me that my campaign to see the Archive of Our Own recognized as a marvel, a miracle of collaborative international action from thousands of fans across the world, after watching Livejournal blast my communities into nothing and AVOS rip del.icio.s to shreds, was somehow antithetical to what the Hugos stand for, come on. Bring it to me and make your case. If you want to compare my work promoting the Hugos to other communities outside the tiny circle of WSFS voters to the work of Nazis and fascists, come on, you bloviating fleshbags. I’m waiting. If you want to tell people that joking around about a Hugo Award win is somehow robbing the award of something irreplaceable, it’s on you to convince me how some fans jokingly writing “.0000000001% Hugo Award winner” devalues the Hugo Awards sitting on my mantle for the work I’ve done on Lady Business. Come on, if you’re so certain, so sure, that the joy and pleasure I’ve watched fans experience after being recognized by other fans, is somehow harmful to the Hugo Award—tell me just how the undermining of the award is going to go. Show me where other Hugo Award winners have expressed the dire prediction that their award is now worthless, just worthless! I expect citations of where they’ve tossed it in the trash. I’ve read lots of your very sad internet tears already and haven’t been convinced, and I’m pretty sure I have more Hugo Awards than most of the people complaining.
renay is part of the .0000000001%.
renay, of course, has been championing the AO3-for-Hugos push since 2014.
THIS IS JUST TO SAY
We have retracted
that you were
you were probably
pretty good about.
— Fly (@flockofwords) September 17, 2019
And for lolz:
Incidentally, "Hugo Award" is not trademarked in Australia, so we're good to go down here, fellow Hugo Award winning AO3 users.
— Liz 🦑 (@_lizbarr) September 19, 2019
(“World” Science Fiction Society. Uh-huh…)
According to Kevin Standlee, the Hugo goes to “whoever the [Hugo] Administrator identified as representing the platform called AO3”, but as near as I can tell there is no such person or people.
The Hugo was awarded to the AO3, as a project of the OTW. That’s all the little rocket ship says.
The WSFS position, as I’m beginning to understand it, is that there are no actual human beings who have a right to public credit themselves with the AO3 Hugo win, and that’s kind of a problem for me.
fairestcat on who gets credit.
Compare and contrast this.
So the AO3 put out a statement “reminding” all its users that they are not actually Hugo Award-winning authors and honestly I think that means it is now law for all AO3 users to put “Hugo Award-Winning Author” in every social media profile they have.
But how do I do that, Alis?
You buy a supporting membership to CoNZealand. It’s NZD 75 (a little less than USD 50). It allows you to both nominate and vote for the Hugos, and you’ll get a voter packet of nominated words, so it’s pretty much the best way to cheaply pick up the “best” (commercial) SFF of any one year, regardless of any other considerations.
Incidentally, pretty much the reason fic doesn’t already routinely smash the awards is because, a) people don’t think about it as eligible,2 and b) when they do fandom tends to be so broad and fractured compared to the teeny tiny incestuous world of American SFF publishing that the vote is massively split.
Because ’tis the season, archive.org apparently has a scanned copy of Collected Editorials from Analog, a selection of John W. Campbell’s op-eds collated by Harry Harrison—he’s the guy who wrote the novel Soylent Green1 was very loosely based on—seemingly for the purpose of… dunking on John W. Campbell. Content warnings for the usual Campbell garbage, especially virulent racism.
For the tl;dr version, James Davis Nicoll did a review back in 2014 and, well. The title alone really should give it away.
I mean, y’all know I kinda side-eye so-called “hard” science fiction in general, but… ye-ee-eah. Given that this is the sort of garbage believed in by its so-called “father”…
- It’s people! [↩]
John W. Campbell, for whom this award was named, was a fascist. Through his editorial control of Amazing Stories, he is responsible for setting a tone of science fiction that still haunts the genre to this day. Sterile. Male. White. Exalting in the ambitions of imperialists and colonisers, settlers and industrialists. Yes, I am aware there are exceptions.
But these bones, we have grown wonderful, ramshackle genre, wilder and stranger than his mind could imagine or allow.
Jeannette Ng accepts an award.
I was wondering why I was suddenly getting so many hits again on my old John Campbell post…
(I’m certainly not the first person to’ve pointed out that Campbell was an asshole, but I think I was kinda the most recent person to point out that the award really shouldn’t be named after him? Either way: still totally should rename that, hey.)